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Demonic Possession Or Sleep Paralysis?..........Zelana*

  Author:  11097  Category:(Religious) Created:(5/10/2006 1:18:00 PM)
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Hi everyone :) I am posting this in the "Reliious Category" for a very specific reason.

Ever suffer from what people call "Sleep Paralysis?" Its an increasing finding among people today.

Here is the definintion: Sleep paralysis is a condition characterized by temporary paralysis of the body shortly after waking up. Some common causes for this are low brain function and narcolepsy. Sleep Paralysis is often accompanied by hypnagogic hallucinations.

Hypnagogic hallucinations are vivid dream-like experiences that occur as one is falling asleep or waking up.

Here are some symptoms: fear, not being able to breath, sensation in the chest area, impending doom or death sensations, visual sensation such as light, shadows, people walking around the room, auditory sensation such as distant voices and footsteps, and vibrations, feelings of being pulled, being pulled off the bed or up walls.

Now... that is quite alarming.



But... what if you aren't sleeping? What if you don't suffer from narcolepsy? Or low brain function? What if you don't have a sleep disorder? And you experience this?...

Well there have been reported cases of this. People wide awake and experiencing this. People who know they are awake but all the sudden their bodies go into shock and they experience this.

This is where people believe they are being attacked by "demons" or "unclean spirits." In today's world this is not very well accepted and often pushed aside as being paranoid; not to mention most people don't believe in "demons" or "ghosts" or "spirits." But there are questions left unanswered which leaves room for both sides of this issue to be discussed and examined. Religion and Science often don't work together and often the followers of both are loyal to one and not the other; but perhaps this calls for both.

Could this be just a medical problem?... a medical problem where people can slide up walls wide awake? A medical problem where people can see and hear things that aren't there awake? A medical problem where people can move from vibrations? A medical problem that focuses on terrorizing dark figures and shadows? A medical problem that focuses on sensation on the chest and the feeling of losing control?.... and are healthy?

Also there was a lot of people stating that the feeling did not subside until a prayer or religious divinity was called upon. Most reported the use of Jesus Christs' holy name for protection.

Or a spiritual problem?

or both?

What's your take?

(Note: this is not for debate but to state your opinions and why you believe so. This is placed in the religious section because most people feel this is an attack from unseen dark forces. There is much heated discussions on many things today that are termed as medical problems without any real explaination. Of course we cannot just simpley go around claiming demons are attacking people we can look at both sides and come up with a possibility, explaination, or some comfort for those suffering from this. I myself have had this happen twice and I was wide awake for both. I speak from experience.)

Also anyone who has suffered from this and wants to share feel free. All opinions welcomed and keep it to a discussion, thanks everyone.

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Date: 5/10/2006 1:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 28848    I honestly don't know, but I can say that I've had similar experiences.  
Date: 5/10/2006 1:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 50249    I have had this experiences before and I can tell you that they are not sleep paralysis. But, that is MY opinion. You know how Science tries to find a logical and scientific explanation to everything, even to things they can't really find an explanation.  
Date: 5/10/2006 2:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 48250    I had not ever heard of this until many years ago, when I was staying in the hospital with my Dad---there was a man who had discussed a similar situation., at first he was afraid to discuss it due to fear of being ridiculed., but he had some very unusual experiences., I do believe that demonic is possible and very real--- A couple years ago., a Brother from a church I had attended., was saying that he had experienced something similar to this-----It's not uncommon---Many Prayers...T/C  
Date: 5/10/2006 2:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    Im wondering how the heck a "medical conditon" can pull someone up a wall? LOL..I think the medical field gives TOO much credit to medical terms and too little credit to spiritual possiblities.  
Date: 5/10/2006 2:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    Ive actually dealt with this type of thing my whole life, at times I was just coming out of sleep and at times I was totally awake and sometimes standing up.  
Date: 5/10/2006 3:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 63366    The problem with these cases as far as proving them is there are no witnesses as to the pulling up walls. People who have this sensation are alone and can’t prove that it happens while their awake. (No camera, witness) This takes out the proof of demonic possession or involvement. Some of the more likely reasons are the person has a mild to sever form of anxiety which causes a rapid release then drop in adrenalin and through the depletion of the adrenalin in the brain they go into a walking sleep somewhat conscious but the subconscious is slipping into the focus. Thus causing the person to think they are awake and experiencing these acts. The other cause could be schizophrenia (big tag with little sub groups, I know). There are a lot of people with this disorder in such mild forms that they seem to be “normal” functioning members of society and can get small doses of relapse on any given day or time and just pass them off as seeing things (out of the corner of their eyes) or I could have sworn there was something there. How many times have you said this or heard someone say this? It’s all “normal” as long as it doesn’t affect your life or harm others, sometimes the mind just needs a very short break and naps sometimes it takes a long one thus the time distortion some people experience. You don’t have to believe me but it explains more than” the boogieman did it”…Disinformer  
Date: 5/10/2006 3:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 63644    I actually did a post about this, Zalana. I asked, "Has this ever happened to anyone" and said I couldn't wake up even after trying, and I knew I was awake. I found out this is what it was. Personally, I don't think this is demonic possession, I like to think of scientific explanations. The symptoms are freaky... I would never want to have hallucinations like that. Just the thought of it creeps me out. :P

It happened once when I had a nightmare, too. I woke up and couldn't open my eyes. To make it worse, I was like three or four years old! Talk about scared!
  
Date: 5/10/2006 4:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 62966    Who Ya gonna call>>>
Date: 5/10/2006 5:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 12084    Back in 1982, I was wide awake. I just laid down beside my spouse who had been sleeping there about an hour before I came to bed. I saw a shadow of a man from about his waist up, appearing on the ceiling and was moving from the direction of my head, going in the direction of my feet. I quickly raised up, and looked out the window at the head of our bed to see who it was that was prowling around the house outside. There was a street light that shined into that window in the night hours. As I pulled back the center panel (curtain) I saw no one out there. But Yet the Shadow was still on the ceiling and still slowly moving in the direction of the Wall at our feet. Then when the shadow reached the wall...., insted of going down the wall as you would think a shadow figure would do, this man's Shadow went "INTO" the wall and disapeared. Then while In disbelief of what I had just witnessed, An invisable force, (and yes I Know it was a Demon) jumped on my body, and it pinned me to the bed and felt like somthing like a Pillow was placed over my face, and began smothering me. My eyes were open,and I was wide awake. I first tried to kick, poke, shake, etc. my sleeping spouse, so that I could get help. This invisable Force was so Strong and Heavy upon my body, that I could not move my hands or legs enough to even reach my spouse laying only 6 or 8 inches beside me. In my mind (Because I could not speak with a Pillow over my face) I rebuked this thing in the Name of Jesus, Over and over until I reached a point that I thought I was going to smother to death. And just as I was about to pass out it released me, just as fast as it jumped onto me. I was struggling with so much of my force trying to get this thing off of me..., that when it released me I flew straight up in a sitting position in the bed, thankful to Jesus for Air once again. It was that year 1982..., that I found a one on one relationship with Jesus Christ. OH.....,I had confessed his name, and had called on him for salvation years before. But when I read the Bible I could not make (figure of speech) heads or tails of it. But in 1982 Jesus and I connected in a personal way that I had never knew before. It is my belief today, that the demon Archons, knew that my relationship with Jesus Christ was going to be Rich, beyond any measure I could have ever hoped for, while yet still walking in life on this present day earth. They knew, even before I did that I was a soldier of Jesus Christ. The demon Archons were mad, and attempted to harm me, using my mortal body, that the Arrogant One created. But Jesus, (When I used his Name in rebuking them) made them set me Free! I..., by first hand experience, can say...., these things are not sleep paralysis!  
Date: 5/10/2006 5:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 12084    Author 62966, "Who Ya gonna call>>>" I called on JESUS.  
Date: 5/10/2006 8:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 63197    This is an excellent post, first and thank you for sharing it. In my opinion I think anything is possible so I'm just baffeled over this one. I think demonic possesion is very possible. I think many people now a days use other names for demonic possesion like SOME mental illness. This is very strange and sounds terrifying! I pray for all of those who have and do experience this. My answer is "Only God Knows." ~*~Medusahead~*~  
Date: 5/10/2006 9:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 56176    yeah i have a post on this ,iut happens and i call on the father son holy ghost me and my daughter did this at the same time ,so how could both of us been dreaming /  
Date: 5/10/2006 9:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 37150    i think it's sleep paralysis.  
Date: 5/11/2006 11:10:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi everyone I just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot this post and I will be replying soon!   
Date: 5/13/2006 7:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    My daughters started to have this happening to them many years ago AFTER they were dabbling in the occult with their friends, even tho they knew Jesus but did not heed the words. It didnt take them long to renounce anything occult they had did in the name of Jesus, at first they loved this because THEY thought they could control the demonic spirts that they had tapped into, yes mystism is what they were into, saying OH it must be good cause God is a supernatural God so this must be ok. Depends on what gods one is dealing with and with mystism you are dealing with the wrong gods, ONLY deal with God, none the less, these experience started to control THEM, this sleep Paralysis happened when they didnt *meditate* or *ask* for it. Scared them because they got close to not being able to pull themself out of it. Finally they learned that by screaming Jesus in their heads that soon they could wiggle a toe, then the leg and snap out of this and acutally say Jesus outloud. My girls got where they , when they went to bed at night, asked the angles of God to guard and surround them and they got where they kept praise and worship music on ALL night long, because these unclean beings do not like listening to anything that gives praise to the name of JEsus. Most people call it astro projection and sometimes they went into astro dreams, where they were IN each others dreams as well. Its scary believe me, because they allowed it into the house before I knew it, I was drawn in also. At one time my mother and I were speaking to each other in our minds, only to come , awake? If you could call it that, and know that we had not talked with out tongues but with our minds. Submit unto the lord and the devil *and his minons* must flee from you.  
Date: 5/15/2006 10:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi Release Me, I am not entirely sure either but when I researched a bit on this topic a couple of things surprised me and I wanted to post both sides and see what everyone thought. I've experienced it twice and both times I was awake. It was very scary and very real. Thanks for reading!  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:03:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi PRS, I also do not think my experiences were sleep paralysis. The first time I was eleven and the second time I was about 15/16. I actually think I will post them sometime and maybe you can tell me what you think? And I also agree, some things cannot be explained soley by science... perhaps we need a combination of science and religious matters. Thanks for reading! (P.S. have you ever posted your experiences on usm? if so can you send me the link?)  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:07:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi mama, that is very interesting. I do know a lot of people are afraid to speak about a lot of these experiences because in reality it seems so unreal... but when it happens it is very real. I've also noticed a lot more people have been claiming to have these experiences. Perhaps there is something to be said. I've also read this has been going on for hundreds of years and I seen a painting (not sure of the painter) who painted a picture to explain the feeling of these experiences. He painted a man laying down (eyes wide open) with a "evil creature" sitting on his chest. It was scary but seems the symtoms have remained closely the same from then until now. Thanks for reading and for the prayers! *hugs*  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:10:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi Shai Beauty... thats what I said when I read it. And also it kinda contradicts the name of the medical term "sleep paralysis" because during this you aren't supposed to be able to move yet you are somehow able to move up a wall... and define gravity? Interesting. I've only had this happen twice and I was awake both times. Its scary. Thanks for reading and replying!  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:15:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi Disinformer, that is a very well thought out explanation but what about those who are awake? Or standing? In no way at all about to fall asleep? And if what you say is true then all these people can be suffering from adrenalin releases because of anxiety while sleeping or schizophrenia? Its a big group of people having these experiences. I appreciate your reply and I'm glad you took the time to read and reply because your comment may bring comfort to someone suffering from this. Thanks.  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:18:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi Author 63644, I understand that people may feel more comforted by a scientific explaination and I don't blame them. Its a very scary thing and you yourself have had this experience. Wow you remember this from being 3/4 years old? lol I don't know if i remember anything from back then. Also could you send me the link to your post so I can read and take a look? Thanks, and thanks for reading and replying!  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:19:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Author 62966... I call on Jesus when I'm scared :P  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:50:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Hi Haeema, that is some experience. I would like to share mine with you. I was about eleven years old at the time (right after my mom passed away) and I was laying in my bed. I was wide awake and staring at my doorway (which was right in front of me and my bed against the wall) and I seen with my mind a very tall dark shadow figure in the doorway about 8 feet tall and I felt him pass right through me into my chest. I closed my eyes once I felt this and I began to hear laughing and two women saying, "Don't let her open her eyes! Don't let her breathe." I couldn't open my eyes even though I was wide awake and I couldn't breathe even though nothing was covering my mouth. I felt like I was underwater. I was fighting in my mind and asking for help and something intervened and they released me and I jumped up. When I got up all my sheets, pillows, and blankets were ripped out from under me and on the floor. I was on a bare mattress. After that I never slept in my room again (not to mention my house was extremely haunted) and I slept on the couch for 3 years until we moved. I believe Jesus Christ saved me that night. It was so scary and so real I will never forget it. Another time I felt fire pass through my body and it wouldn't let go until I managed to say Jesus Christs' holy name and I was released. It was so scary and so violent I will never forget it. I am a soldier of Christ and I will never let go of my faith because I was saved both times in Jesus' name. Thank you for sharing your experience and for reading. God Bless.  
Date: 5/15/2006 11:52:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11097    Well I got to go right now but I will be back to answer the rest of your replies!   
Date: 5/15/2006 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    wow that picture would scare me. LOL, But really I"ve seen some things that would scare one to death, praise God I have Jesus to protect me. Have a great day, mom.  
Date: 5/17/2006 6:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 54461    My oppinion.. I have never witnessed this, and I pray I dont. But I do believe there are cases where sleep paralysis is possible. But I do believe Demons could also play a major role. I mean, I read the replies, and in order for that to be Paralysis, then im sorry, scientist must be blind. lol. All I have to say is, everything must surrender to the name of Jesus. Amen.. I dont want to hear about how these are human beings who died and resolve in lower realms, no these things are more drastic and sadistic than any human. Who else would surrender to the name of Jesus? Only a demon, or Satan himself. Demons played a role in the bible, and there playing a role today.  
Date: 6/1/2006 7:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 63743    I am happy the you posted this. When I was a little girl something similar happen to me one night I couldn't explain it and its so real that i thought maybe i was having a lucid dream or something it hasn't happen again. I am very happy that you posted this because i really thought i was alone on this and it didnt happen to anyone else I guess i shoul have known better thanks for putting all this facts out!
  
Date: 7/15/2006 1:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 63581    Look, I have a friend that this happened to. She was at church and the holy man (preacher, etc.. not sure what they called it there) puts oil on their foreheads while they are all in some sort of meditative/prayer type state I guess. When he went to put it on her forehead she started talking in some language she doesnt even know (wasnt a language we usually speak, spanish, german etc.. etc..) and started hissing.. She blacked out and woke up. When she awoke, she felt like she had been choked and there was pressure upon her chest. At her house now, she also told me about tappin noises upon the glass sometimes and vibration on her chair.. Any help would be great.  

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