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How can the bible predict the end of the world, or speak of eternity, when there is no time

  Author: 33693  Category:(Debate) Created:(10/13/2001 9:57:00 PM)
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Question: if time, distance, speed, and all other measurements have been created by man. How can the Bible actually predict when the begining of the Universe started or ended.. Remember distance is nothing more than man's label of one point to another. Time is nothing more than a measurements of moments. What would yesterday be if it weren't called yesterday? What would a foot be without the label of man? I know some of you will not understand this, to put it simply. if man created time, there is no way for anyone to predict how long the Universe has existed. Remember, All Scientist Do is manipulate What Is. Meaning they innovate the What is and label it and everyone else follows..So those burning questions:Who created God? Nobody, because if there is no time there is no begining and No end.. what is eternity? Would be impossible because we're dealing with time? How long has the Universe existed? Impossible, because that would suggest a begining which will of course have to deal with time.

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Date: 10/13/2001 9:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 45095    Here we go again!... "Dangsgirl!"
Date: 10/13/2001 10:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    what do you mean
Date: 10/13/2001 10:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    God created time..In the beginning God created the sun to rise and to set..(We do know that the sun doesn't actually rise,etc,but is is said to rise and set)So,God created day and night..God says all that He created will come to an end.. That's the end of time as we know it(24 hour periods)When the end comes,then time will not be measured anymore..There will only be eternity..  
Date: 10/13/2001 10:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 42946    But if man created time, then man can also manipulate it, with a time machine or a transporter or something. How come man can't figure that out yet.  
Date: 10/13/2001 10:55:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Man can create a time machine, it's only a a matter of "time" when man can manipulate What Is to find a superior to his own experience. And figure how to travel the speed of life
Date: 10/13/2001 10:55:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Or the speed of light
Date: 10/13/2001 10:57:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    If God created "time", then your saying since the begining of the universe man has lived by hours, minutes and seconds. I have to disagree. And if there is a such thing as time, what time do animals follow. Or do they not count? I mean they are apart of this constant movement of time
Date: 10/13/2001 10:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 35853    If there will ever be a time machine, don't you think someone would have came "Back To The Future" and tell us how? You watch way too many movies!  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 45095    ^^^^^^What he said!^^^^^^
Date: 10/13/2001 11:04:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    How can you create a time machine and come back if the future does not exist
Date: 10/13/2001 11:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 35853    Think about it! Our present would be someone elses past! If we went back, we would remember it!  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Come on people think, everything exist at the same time, how can you go into the future and come back if it hasn't existed yet.. What I was suggesting is if there ever will be a travel to the future, it will more or less be a travel to the past.If you move at the speed of light you can come back before you take off. Never, ever will there be a time machine to see our deepest mysteries. It's impossible it deifes the rules of the universe.. Now who watches all the movies..
Date: 10/13/2001 11:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    The bible says that God created everything in 6 days and rested on the seventh. Supposedly the writers were guided by the Holy Spirit. In that case man did not invent time or speed.  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    What, I have no clue what you mean
Date: 10/13/2001 11:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    I'm not surprised.  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 35853    Now you are going against what you just said!  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:15:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    In that case yes if the writer of the BIBLES were guided by this holy spirit. However that would suggest that every man b4 the bible was written lived in days and nights. Are you telling me one of the first settlers of intelligence The hunters and gathers lived by days, nights,and years. remember the calender was created in the 1600's and the watch shortly b4.. (Hmm) i just had a funny thought. Jesus walking around with a watch on.
Date: 10/13/2001 11:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    Cavemen had their drawings....how do you know they didn't keep track of days? That was before Jesus, unless you're going to tell me next you can picture Jesus riding on a brontosauras.  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Hawk, drawings of what.. the sun the moon and animals. How does that suggest they moved in seconds, minutes and hours.
Date: 10/13/2001 11:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    What about sun dials???  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:31:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Seconds, minutes and hours make up days. this would mean that they would have to keep track of every movement and label it a second,hour,and minute
Date: 10/13/2001 11:35:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    What about sun dials
Date: 10/13/2001 11:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    I firmly believe that no one can return to the past..There are no people left in the past...Once a person dies,his flesh returns to dust and his soul goes onto eternity..This eternity belongs to God..When our souls leaves our body, our flesh decays,neither can be brought back.IF we traveled back into time,it would only be in our minds..We would not return to a physical world where flesh is..We cannot travel into the future because the future has not happened yet..IF we could traveled into the future, it would only be into eternity where no time exist..  
Date: 10/13/2001 11:59:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Our bodies would never be able to survive the speed of light, only our thoughts can. So yes you can only move to the future or the past in thought it makes it impossible ""for Our present to be someone else's past". So it would be impossible for God to create the world in six days, because that would suggest on the seventh day, the other six days don't exist therefore his creation of time and days would not work because it existed in the past, therefore non-existing at all.. A creation on tuesday, doesn't exist on wednesday. It would make more sense if god said I created the world in the ever existant moment of now. Then and only then a creation can take place,because it's forever changing in the moment..
Date: 10/14/2001 12:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 1574    Ah...someone who has evolved...HELLO MONKEY!!! WANT A BANNANA? Look, no one really knows how long the first six days really were. They could've been 24 minutes, 24 hours, or 24 thousand years...why? Well, for your amusment, time does not exsist for God. He is the begining and the end...Alpha and the Omega...it's in Genesis..chapter one if I'm not mistaken...see minutes may seem like days and days may seem like minutes...the reason we have time...is so people such as monkeys like yourself, can comprehend what exactly is going on around them? You say there is no God...Well, what egg did you hatch from? Oh wait... you believe that you were a gooey mess on the floor on a rock somewhere in the Philippines...and Poof! there you were...you probably believe that crap just happens all by itself ...right? let me ask you something? can a horse evolve into something else other than a horse? a different breed of horse maybe...but not a barn or a cow...so how on earth can a monkey evolve into man? it won't happen...look i'll lay it on the line for you...and this is a nice way of putting it...quit wasting space on the internet with crap like this about time...i think it's time to open your bible, and figure out what the hell your purpose is in life is...leave the ridiculous questions to the retards that get paid to ask the ridiculous questions...the scientists.  
Date: 10/14/2001 12:36:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    Jed, is it really hot in texas in that motor home. I'm sorry that I'm threating your existance, the very fact that I'm questioning time makes my mind superior to yours. Because you stated in your article time does not exist yet you continue to believe that it is relavent in your beliefs. See you don't understand the monkey JED. The monkey somewhat understands the truth but is so confined to something that can't be proven he's willing to contradict himself. the scholar is somebody who doesn't stay with the same thought day by day. The ever changing thought. So Jed before you call someone a monkey, why don't u watch the reasons why you would call someone such a name and then realize that the only reason u exist is for people like me to measure how superior I am
Date: 10/14/2001 12:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    If we built a house of stone 500 years ago,it could still be existing today..So..We built the house in the past,about 182,500 thousand times of the rising and settings of the sun..If I "create" a child on Tuesday,he still exists on Wednesday.. If we create something,it is a physical thing and it will remain,today,tomorrow,etc..But..It does age with time..Time is measured according to the rising and setting of the sun..My child that I "created" years ago still exist today but he is older..The world which God created thoushands of years ago still stands and it has gotten older.. If there was no time,then we nor the world would be getting older..Now..I firmly believe that God created all things in 6 days and on the 7th day He "rested" or stopped creating.I firmly believe that God is unlimited in intellect,wisdom,power, etc and can do anything He so desires..God could have just as easily caused all things as we know it to be in an instant,but I do believe that it is possible that He created all things in 6 days and reasted on the 7th was for the very reason to cause time to be measured..He created the sun to rise and set in order to measure day and night because He knew He was creating a man who would be limited in what he could do and man needed measured time in order to survive..A man is not a machine which could operate without resting..A man must have rest periods..In Hs wisdom,He knew what man needed to make his life worthwhile..Can you image life if we had no measured time?..Man would die..All things on earth survives because of measured time..As I said..God limited man and man needs measured time..When man dies,he is received into eternity where there is no measured time..He will not age,he will not sleep,etc..He will be in a place with no limitations as time....  
Date: 10/14/2001 1:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 1574    Superior? ...lol that's a laugh...lol did I get a rise out of ya? by the way..thats Jedi with an "I" not jed...lol...my motorhome is air conditioned thank you very much. what are you like 12 years old? Monkey boy you rock...a little off, but retarded non the less. Your reply to my comment is dumb, say what you mean and mean what you say. you asked a question and I answered. you're upset because you didn't get the rise out of me that you're getting from everyone else. and yes, the MONKEY does care... if not, you wouldn't have profiled messaged me. Your scholars have been asking the same stupid questions you've been askng and their answer is still the same... nada. Why? because there are holes in their thinking. Holes in there theories, and holes in their underwear from all that gas they have to release when they just don't get it. and as far as the fairy tale comment about the bible...it is documented fact... that the old testament of fairy tales, is documented hebrew history! eat that monkey boy! I await your response!  
Date: 10/14/2001 3:17:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    Yo,
Yay...I love it how pro-science and pro-bible always loves to go head to head. Gees...heres how I see it: Science AND the Bible are two different paths to THE SAME THING...enlightenment. Whereas pro-science seeks truth in beakers and calculations, pro-bible seeks truth in scriptures and interpretations. Truth IS faith IS truth. After all, what is faith but something you find truth in...what is truth but something you have faith in. Quit arguing and simply accept...science or religion...I really don't see the difference...just people who seek to create difference for their own individual power struggles. Peace,
  
Date: 10/14/2001 7:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 17525    The creation story in the bible doesn't say "when" anything happened. It only says "In the Beginning", just as many other creations stories do also. There are no dates. Regarding the "end"; while many hold that Revelation is a prophecy, there are also many who hold that it is a spiritual initiation process undergone by John and not a prediction of anything. It's all in what you wish to believe. Peace,  
Date: 10/14/2001 12:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    I think that while God created the PROCESS of time, man instituted the MEASUREMENT of time. And what the Bible is "predicting" is in terms of certain events happening, not trying to put any "time" period on it. Finally, by allowing your mind to wander in pursuit of answers to these questions must mean that you have a lot of "free time" on your hands. God Bless.  
Date: 10/14/2001 12:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    The words "In the beginning" means.."In the beginning of time" or "when time began"..Before that there was no measured time..We now live in this measured time..But according to the scriptures, measured time will end..Then all things will go back to being eternal,no measured time but forever and ever..There will be no more time,death,births,etc as these things are all controled by time and has limitations..  
Date: 10/14/2001 12:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 17825    God has his own time table in the bible it says a day to man is like a thousand years to God so we are on our time table but God does have one of his own set for us and this world  
Date: 10/14/2001 2:38:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 33693    In the begining and in the ending is a measurement of time. You have to count to x a number of days to get to the begining and a x a number of days to the end.. If that's the case what is before the begining and after the end
Date: 10/14/2001 6:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 1574    Hey Monkey boy, what's your malfunction, man? what the hell do you care aout time? without it you're late for work...oh wait...you're 12. you're still mooching off your parents. look, you've set out to get replies...and you're getting them, congrats! you still have a ways to go before you get your tag. you geek.  
Date: 10/15/2001 12:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 34814    Here is the answer cause the Bible said so LMAO... I hear ya..  
Date: 10/15/2001 7:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 277    LOL@Jedi!  
Date: 10/15/2001 10:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 27678    The Bible doesn't predict the time - just the events leading up to the return of Jesus. Free Girl  
Date: 10/16/2001 2:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 45551    there is no such thing as time we made it up. as man got smarter the measurments got smaller. time is used to measure productivity,to make our lives have meaning to make us feel we have made many accomplishments and to measure the timing of those accomplishments to compare to othersin other groups ....you have rich, poor,and middle class,educated, or not, black/white.....etc....fact of the matter is everyone is concerned about what joe nieghbor is doing or accomplishing and in what amount of time he does it in or what time he does it......i cant prove we came from monkeys,and i cant prove there is a god either,what i can prove is that you were born...and you will die and during that journey you will have many choices to maketo better your life and others, or just kick back and conform to society and enjoy the ride. MASTER OF FATE  
Date: 10/16/2001 12:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    ^^^Master of Fate...aka...the author of this post: I also see you have created "another account". You think you're pretty slick. Don't you know the Admins can check isp addresses?  
Date: 10/16/2001 9:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 45551    sorry hawk....someof the TIME i do think i am slick,however i am not the poster of this. i am brand new to this community  
Date: 10/16/2001 11:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 21862    hmmm I like to think the langerlers (how ever you spell it) eat the old world and we just pop up in a new one lol so there for we have no past and only create our future lol by the way don't take me seriously I don't want to start another fight, theres already a hot enough one going on in here  
Date: 11/23/2001 8:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 34078    Sounds to me like you want to get married.  

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