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WHY is it Okay to say you want the old USM back...is that not hurtful??? ~~Cblossom

  Author:  20296  Category:(Discussion) Created:(4/19/2001 8:09:00 PM)
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Yes, even since I have been a member things have changed. Many new peeps come and go, stories, moods and "faces" move through USM on a regular basis.

I read a story today that totally hurt my feelings. It stated there were too many peeps here now. the person wished it would go back to the "olden days". Another peep stated that we, those with numbers in the 5 digits, just do not understand......

I have been here for a while...not forever, but in the short period of time I would like to say I have made over 4100 comments and they were all well thought out, well most of them. I have wriiten many stories that i hoped would touch someone deeply or perhaps make their day a little brighter. I contribute to this site and am dismayed to find that some peeps actually think of me as intruding on "their" site.

I am hurt by seeing some of the older members "yearn" for yesteryears. Although I may say there are a lot of people here and more stories and more crowded chat rooms, the admins are only being gracious to allow ALL of us to share in THEIR site. for this site has been created by them, noone else.

I am sorry, I am terribly hurt and this isnt the first time.

I ask, why is it acceptable to hurt the newer members feelings???? I have heard the term "newby" stated like it is a disease, I have heard peeps moan and groan how much they dislike the new USM:( why??????

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Date: 4/19/2001 8:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 25390    Cblossom, I was offended to, that's why I chose not to say anything to them b/c I was hurt. Sure we don't know what it was like in "the olden days." But why are we living in the past? Yes, there are some rude people here. But that's what we must come over. There are some WONDERFUL "newbies" here. We can't expect EVERYONE to be "perfect." It's a wonderful thought, but simply not realistic. I'm not directing this toward all of the "old-schoolers," but I think that some of you do need to give us a chance. Accept us for our minds and spirit, not our ID numbers. =Odd=  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 29865    I also read the story ur are refering to and it hurt me too  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 6915    change is good..........people dont know what they have until its gone. they didnt realize they needed to accept USM as it was and as it is and how it will be. Good post:0)  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 6528    CBlossom, I apologize for hurting you. I guess I didn't really think out my response. I have lots of "newer" member friends, and I still love USM. But it is true that it used to be quite a different place, which I also enjoyed a lot. I often feel lost around here because I don't see my older friends as much. I love everyone here dearly. I don't necessarily wish it was back to 'olden days' as the author of the post you're referring to said, but I do agree with him that it was very different, and I'm somewhat nostagic about it. Again, I apologize, I'm very very very sorry to have offended you and others. I hope you can forgive me! BTW..before I go..my feelings on this subject are mostly from the chat and social aspect of USM...not so much the stories and comments or quality of same. I know you have touched many people, and I don't feel that new member are intruding at all. This site was a gift to all of us, and its ever changing and ever growing. I guess I failed to accept that in a positive way. All right Aphy shut up!! Thanks for hearing me out.  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:27:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    WOW!!! shimmer is a four digit and she is being so sweet to us fives *huGz* love ya shimmer and *huGz* to Odd and author who didnt put name It was a hurtful post, yet it is still up makes ya wonder Are we really welcome, after all EMI is an admin and she was mentioned in that post???? I am sure that most know that the more peeps the merrier. and the more you learn when there are different views after all, I want to broaden my view  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    thanks so much aphro I mean that yes, I was hurt, but I am glad you came by I know that everytime someone sees that kind of posting, it hurts them even if a little, and I do not think that is what USM is all about I so accept your apology and again, thanks from all the five digits heehee  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    *handing tissue* Hey...stop blubbering!!! Hey I tell you what....here lookie *handing shiny new nickle* It's all yours......How's that? You know I'm messing with you!!! *ducks as brick flies by* *hugs*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 13609    I saw that post, it was sad, but i decided not to say anything. I like usm, and i think its great that new people are comming and having fun here!!  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    *grabs shiny new nickle and runs from gumball machine to gumball machine, searching desperately for one that takes less then a quarter* Tell ya what Pixie I will stop when I get a quarter....inflation ya know * picks up brick, thinks twice and chucks it, waiting for the quarter first* heehee  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 27845    When I read that post, I debated about whether or not it would be a good idea to leave a comment, but in the end I did because I don't feel that mean posts like that should go un detected. It's really hurtful that they said things like that and the way they were saying it was as if they owned USM. It's really wrong. And I couldn't help laughing when they were talking about how USM 'used' to be so friendly, when infact they were posting something so mean. Great post, I'm glad someone else picked up on this. ~«*¤YourDestiny¤*»  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    Well....look a gift horse in the mouth.....and see where THAT gets ya! *stomping foot*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:36:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    silver...I just had to click it and once I read it, I had to say something. it was hurtful, intended or not. I am basically not a "newby" but still....I feel for those who come and think that USM is full of a bunch of snobs and they are not welcomed to join It does, pixie, it does make me cry *runs out of room really sobbing now* why cant we just all get along?????? I took that from some peep somewhere LOL seriously though, it amazes me what gets deleted and what stays.....  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 6528    Thanks you so much Cblossom!! I felt so bad knowing that I hurt everyone like that...I guess I should have been clearer in my reply. I remember the times of which my friend Tyll speaks, but I don't agree with the last half of what he said...human nature corrupting everything??? No way! I'm just big on remembering the past. Change is good, and I have fond memories, and usm has a great future ahead. Ok, its late, my contacts are getting bleary, I'm going to turn in before i say anything stupid(er). LOL Thanks again for being so great!  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 6915    P.s. i must say the newer people have added greatly to this site and because of this there is much more variety, suggestions and people to turn to :0)  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:39:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    your destiny....maybe someone had to speak up I am glad you did. I am sure that the creators never expected their gift to be so selfishly coveted and PIXIE...it is not my fault that prices have gone up...you were basically buying my silence LOL and it doesnt come cheap heehee nanananaaaa!! *huGz* ya know I love ya...but I wanted to write a USM poem with ya, but geeze...so sad write a happy start...and I am with ya babe  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:42:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Aphro you are one mature gal to come and say what are beautiful words we all have said hurtful things before. you are a remarkable peep...ya know, right *huGz*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 25390    LOL cblossom, I decided to respond anyway over there. And Aphrodite, thank you so much for your very sincere apology. I love ya still! And Shimmerkiss, thank you so much! =Odd=  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    Ok....Im not new and I certainly ain't old.........so *scratching head* Where does that leave me?  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    OK OK shimmer you gained another *huGz* you are soo cute I just love ya to pieces. the old timers are great too It is just wonderful how we all can come together I am feeling cheesy love vibes now...so much better than grouchy vibes I have been a grouch lately......shhhh!!! I am over it thoughLOL  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:46:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296     Odd *huGz* again to you feel the love vibes in this post they are awesome heehee.....*starts to sing "love makes the world go round"*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:47:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    I do not know...actually I do and I made a post once about peeps like you, pix you are the inbetweenies there are the newbies, the oldies....and youLOL I guess, I am somewhere in the mix as well  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 20750    awwwwwwwwwww sis I love it here !!!!!!! with peeps like you love really does make the world go round!!! LOL  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    *lowering voice* "In betweenies".....Can we say that on a "G" rated site?....Gosh how liberal *giggles*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296     MOON GIRL is cheesy loving too awwww!!!! *huGz* to ya too sis  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:50:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296     heehee pixie!!! it is all fair in love and war I didnt start the war...wait that is a billy joel song....no that is I did not start the fire well, that too LOL  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    LOL ok....off to bed...I shall not harrass you anymore tonight.....but look out tomorrow!!! *smile*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 13079    Oh BTW can I have my nickle back??? Rent ya know *sigh*  
Date: 4/19/2001 8:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    OK you can have your darn nickle back but just warning ya..I let rain suck all over it she has a thing about shiny objects I had to let her hold it as collateral to ride herman goodnight pix I am off to bed soon too all these love vibes got me gooshy and sleepy *huGz*  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Hi Cblossom..This world is made up of the new and the improved..I mean really..Whatever stays the same in an ever changing world?..I do believe that if you stay at this site for a year,you will be in the place of the old timers and there will be those newbies..So hang in there..Your turns comin' You will be able to walk that mile in someone elses shoes..Sincerely Rusure  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 19173    Ya that's about the 20th post I saw about how great USM used to be yadda yadda, I'm almost as sick of seeing that as I am about seeing Bloody Mary and Toy dolls coming to life LOL!! LisaNY1  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 9092    I think this is still a great site, people who new can still contribute just as much or more as the old. It is more crowded, and it has changed, not all for good but not all for bad. The admin try to do everything in their power to make everyone happy and to make this a pleasant site, but humans aren't easily pleased,especially in large groups. But you can't deny people to a place based on the morals that this site holds. I do feel it's wrong for people to say those things, however I find myself missing the way things used to be, not as a prejudice but just because we hold some things dearer, or truer as we remember them. And it's true that newer people can't understand it all, even if they try, only because they weren't around to know. It's nothing against them by any means, just a fact that should be pointed out. Love and prayers  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 9092    I also agree with Aphrodite, but STOP. Don't create a fault line in usm to seperate the newer members and older ones, its what we contribute,not when we come, we prove our worthiness. NO ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER HERE, and that goes for EVERYONE, I don't care what you say, but to hold a prejudice is bad, and to learn a prejudice from that one is just as bad. I do hope the problem stops though.  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 9092    (no attacks on anyone,specially you Cblossom, I just get easily aggrivated when something goes wrong)  
Date: 4/19/2001 9:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 15621    4100 comments???......I was going to say something nice but?..LOL..Im joking
I think some of these people mean it in a different way tho?..Like...I like change as far as this site goes...it gets better and better....but I do miss some of the people that were around when Ifirst came here that are gone now....But Im glad to see all these new people coming to usm
  
Date: 4/19/2001 10:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 27678    Personally, I've been here since like, last October, and I don't feel like a "newbie". It seems that the site is pretty exciting. There are many extremes in views presented, but overall there's a live and let live attitude. I think maybe you're being a little sensitive there. Free Girl  
Date: 4/19/2001 10:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 12709    HEY! I'm in the five digits and I've been here for nearly a year! I take offense to that! I understand USM! Jeez... I remember when things were way different, but I'm not mean about it.... That really does offend me!! =( =(  
Date: 4/19/2001 10:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 17561    LOL...I had more fun reading yours and pixies comments back and forth that I had forgot about the main post..LOL...awww blossom sis, you and I and jung palled up right off the bat when we first got here together, we connected like nobodies business, remember that:-)...well not a soul could take that feeling away from us. It belongs to us, that connection we had made. I hold that dear in my heart. Now why do I say that. Becuase no matter how this site is and no matter what is added, it does not count, what counts is the fun we have had together and the laughes and the tears we have shared with one another..The great phone calls we have had, the awesome talks that was have had. Do you have to be an older memver for that??No way, you just have to have a heart and one that cares..We did that, and we still do. So my point is this, for those that don't have that then or now, I feel for them, as it is here..you have to seek it out, like we did:-)...I would never trade knowing you for the world, you are alway uplifting, even when your down in emotions, you are always there to pick another up when they are down. blossom sis..take your arms and wrap them around you right now, you know what that is??That is me here giving you a big sis hug of I love you for who you are, no matter if we are new or old...I love ya sis blossom...I always have and always will!!!!You know something I have met some great awesome people here on this site, they are older members and newer members, and I just love them, they have touched my heart in so many ways. those that have been here for awhile are having to adjust to new ideas and concepts for improvement...these improvements are not easy for the admins to make, they take time, and they do it for us...OMG if we only knew how much time it takes to actually create one lil thing we would be blown away..LOL..I feel for this person who wrote that post you are talking about, as I think that they are having a hard time with progression, but maybe we can help them to understand progression...we have to work together with that. Sure it might get confusing to some at first, but with work and help we can get thru that:-) I loved this post you wrote as it gave me a chance to say things to you that I feel and to others that are needing some extra words of incouragement. Loves and hugs blossom...your sissy here loves ya:-)..big time hugs  
Date: 4/19/2001 11:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 27046    Cblossom I did not read the post and I don't really think that I want to......however there was a post done back a few months ago where someone stated that we needed to respect the Usm elders. Something was stated look at the Id numbers that shows thier stay and they deserve respect for the time being here. I was offended by that because, I give respect where respect is earned. If you are respectful to me I am respectful back. When you start to get mean and snappy, I can do that too. (although I try so very hard not to...)I stated on that post that we all deserve the same amount of respect........Azairyia  
Date: 4/20/2001 5:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 18155    I came on this past October, 2000,and have no idea what the'old days' refer to. If it means fewer people, that is the problem with success, people see something good and want to be part of it.If I was in Admn. and did not see growth in my investment, I would be concerned. Size is a problem but more of a problem, to me, is behavior of all those here that want to disrupt the system by what they say or verbal behavior. Irresponsible acts worry be a lot more than size, age, educational level, etc.  
Date: 4/20/2001 6:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    Great comment 32 Degress....I agree..Rusure  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:40:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Rusure. Actually when I do become what is considered an "oldie"..and actually to some of the newest members I am, I will not deserve any special treatment due to my time spent here, anymore than any others do. we earn our respect through our posts and replies that is all *huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:41:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Lisa...it does seem to be an on-going theme I have no prob with saying "I loved Usm back when..." until it turns out to be a personal blame-game sort of deal. The newest members are not the only rude ones rude peeps are rude peeps, regardless to their number or "station" *huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:43:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Soul Zenner It is okay to reminence (sp?) but to blame the "traffic" on newer peeps or to wish back and away to a long ago time is sad and useless. also when peeps feel "unworthy" because of someone's words...that too is sad *huGz* noone likes when things do not go smoothly.  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:44:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    LOL @ Six *huGz* you silly I also miss members that used to be here and are not now...and I am not an "oldie" peeps leave for different reasons and we all miss them  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:47:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Free girl...since you did not read the story in question...and if you did, then I will reserve judgement, but let me say I do not personally care what you think of me if ya think I am being to sensitive, you are wrong I personally feel this is a good thing to feel "personal" about. many new members were hurt. I have been here longer than you...I guess that makes it okay to be and say whatever I want to you, HUH???? but then agin..nothing hurts your feelings you are sooo strong  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:49:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    CB I just wish that peeps would think about how many others their words will effect. I am not without "error" in judgement. but when someone "blames" the horrible changes on the "newbies", it is unfair and selfish. *huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:52:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    you are silly dalpy *huGz* and I love it and I love you yes, we did....and I thyink it is an amazing thing, this place and "us" I have made more friends here that mean the world to me. it is more than a simple website to me. to those that meerly read the stories, well that is ok too I think that mission accomplished by the admins. they created a wonderful site, that is soo popular due to many reasons, all valid and yes...I felt that hug one can always use a hug, especially from a good friend *huGz* back to ya dalp sis  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:52:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Oh dalp!!!! tell pixie to give me back my quarter she is being a "taker-backer" LOL  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:54:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    AZ!! I saw THAT story too I do not give respect due to such simplicities. I earn mine...otherwise I feel it is a shallow victory, ya know *huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 8:58:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Mason...my personal opinion over hearing the "I cant find my friends, noone reads my stories anymore, lalalala is that if you want to be noticed, say something that peeps (all of them, or most of them) want to hear. I think it is quite possible for peeps to stand out in the masses if they have a quality that few possess. there are many that stand out to me, due either to their wonderful story telling, their unbelievable kindness, and yes even their notority (sp) One doesnt have to get "lost" in the swoad that to me is fear yep...*huGz* I like to be the center of attention as much as anyone else, probably more..yet I can and do take the backseat the view can be beautiful from back there as well*huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 3538    Well,I personally love the new addittions to USM and all of the people that have joined and or joining each day!!It is great to meet people and read different stories from them.I think that each person here has contributed to the site and that there should be no one complaining about how it used to be,because there is no harm in making things different.  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 9130    This is a good point CBlossom! I am not a "real oldie" or a "newbie" I am kinda in between, and I do not see why people complain either... I really like MANY of the "newer" people here... and to be honest most replies seem to come from people with higher numbers, which makes me wonder if the "older" members just got bored or what....WOW... I just glanced at the numbers of people on this post... maybe I am starting to become one of the "older" members... ANYWAYS, I will quit rambling now... My point is maybe people just need to chill...???  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:32:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Justice, me too I find the more stories, the more to choose from and more peeps to love  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:33:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Dizzy me yes, oldies and newbies and even the in-betweenies can be rude I think that some are just jealous not enough attention  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:37:00 AM  From Authorid: 30264    USM rules USM rules USM rules USM rules USM rules!!!!!!!  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 30264    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!I'm new here but I say the
more peeps the better!!!!!!!!!!I luv you all!!!!!!!
  
Date: 4/20/2001 9:46:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    see!!! what would USM be without the MANIAC???? I tell ya, "I love ya, man!!!" *huGz*  
Date: 4/20/2001 10:09:00 AM  From Authorid: 8224    Know what post your talking about Cblossom and I decided not to answer simply because I decided to to give the individual the "benefit of the doubt" that it was either a bad day or that they, like so many, don't really care that much for change. What ever it is, change is change and it is the one thing that will always remain "constant." I've been here on this site a year, and if I'm to be regarded as the only of the "oldies" - I'll accept it knowing I stood the test of time and did so with flying colors. This site has changed yes, and each day it seems to get better and better but like everything else, one has to learn to take the good along with the bad - you have, you've maintained, so whatever you do, see such "posts" for what they are, here today and gone tomorrow - it's not worth getting upset over any of them - their just opinions and nothing else. Sorry for being so blunt, but I just hate seeing you get upset for something that will always fade in time. Antona  
Date: 4/20/2001 10:15:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    I know the posts fade away A, but then they are just replaced with more negativity and hurtful remarks I just think that when I see a post that is hurtful, maybe it is time for a rebuttle at some point, someone needs to stand up and say "hey no!!! we wont go!!!" LOL I just think that we must say, that enough is enough and nothing stays the same, so embrace it instead of saying "ugly" before really looking into it I am not upset.....LOL, well I was a little but not for me alone, for I now rank a inbetweenieLOL but that still doesnt make me better for the time spent here, only the time spent here doing something positive counts as "time served" and time served "well"  
Date: 4/20/2001 10:16:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    I forgot to *huGz* ya A and lots of *huGz* to ya dear lady love ya  
Date: 4/20/2001 10:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 8224    Yes, your right Cblossom standing up and saying, "hey enough is enough" - you've been doing that from day one as well as going to the defense of so many other people - now take a look at the responses you've gotten and then realize, you've been heard and backed up by "oldies., inbetweeners, and newbies." (How I hate labels). And before I forget, hug's to you as well.
Make it a great day. Antona
  
Date: 4/20/2001 10:30:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    yes...A I tend to stand up ALOT maybe I SHOULD just sit a while heehee...my feet get tired *huGz* ok...that was silly, I think a "mood" is coming on LOL better cut the dose of the "happy pills" today  
Date: 4/20/2001 2:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 30264    I would be lost without USM and YOU Cblossom!!!!!!!!  
Date: 4/20/2001 2:48:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    you silly willy I love ya maniac *huGz*  
Date: 4/21/2001 8:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 27678    O.K. Cblossom, here is a public apology. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I did not read the post you refer to and still haven't and so, I didn't have the right to disregard your feelings, regarding said post. Please accept my apology and answer your mail, huh? Free Girl  
Date: 4/22/2001 3:01:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    free girl all is forgotton *huGz* actually I was offended for ALL the peeps....LOL guess I should just worry about myself, but I hate when innocent peeps get hurt and thank you free  
Date: 4/22/2001 5:21:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Oh by the way...I was offended by the post not you , freegirl  
Date: 4/22/2001 9:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 27678    And thank you, dear. Free Girl  
Date: 4/25/2001 5:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 2474    Im sorry if I hurt your feelings with my poast c blossom. as well as any one else. I was mistaken. but also i have been missunderstood. I was being very pesimistic when i wrote that and put some pretty unpleasnt words in it. but i never targeted any one person or group of people. Just human nature itself. Im proof of it myself with the contents of my poast. After I read some of the comments to my poast I immeadiatley saw the flaws in my view. I still do miss the way things were but i dont have anything against the new people here. I still love this site. I guess im still getting used to it. it was all so sudden for me. again im sorry that i upset anyone.  
Date: 4/27/2001 9:37:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20296    Tyll...thank you we all have our days. the wonderful thing about USM, is that we all learn everyday. it takes a mature peep to come to a post and say it was I that this author was using as a rebuttal. you have noticed, I hope, that I never bring names into my posts unless it is to build up a peep, not tear him or her down. I am glad that you were able to see how some peeps were hurt. but I know you are a great guy thanks for coming in and setting me straight *huGz* to you I understand that you miss the old USM...sometimes I do miss certain things too and i am new too but change is never going to stop  
Date: 5/20/2002 3:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 52279    No kidding....Ginger and Radman try so hard.  

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